July Bombs - We Need A Public Inquiry

The case for a thorough examination into the events surrounding the bombing and the capability of the security services gets stronger and stronger.

We've had events like this Summers Heathrow fiasco and numerous other 'scares' but, in the case of real terrorists, MI5 act like incompetent cowboys. It's now known that Khan was under surveillance for a year before the attack, but MI5 couldn't even identify him, and now the Keystone Cops aspect turns to farce as the day before the bombing Dame Eliza Manningham-Buller, director-general of MI5 told a private meeting of Labour whips that there was no imminent terrorist threat to London or the rest of the country.

What's the point? The only

What's the point? The only reason for a public enquiry would be to get to the bottom of the holes in the "Official Narrative", but you won't entertain any alternative theories to that anyway.

Also, there's no such thing as a fair and independant enquiry anymore in this country, thanks to the draconian laws that have been passed on the back of the "terrorist threat".

I liked the hat on Mad Tony.

I liked the hat on Mad Tony. Perhaps a new one?
LIke this?
or this?

whatever happened to the

whatever happened to the 21/7 bombers? it's been 18 months now and still no sign of a prosecution.

eh? What's the point? The

eh?

What's the point? The only reason for a public enquiry would be to get to the bottom of the holes in the "Official Narrative", but you won't entertain any alternative theories to that anyway.

And just where on this site do you find any of us suggesting the 'Narrative' stands up? What you do find is us getting a little tired of the "the CIA/MI6/Mossad/the illuminati delete as applicable did it" comments populating every post, relevant to 7/7 or not.

What I never hear from the those who think they have the answers to the questions the rest of us want answering is how they are going to demonstrate their theories, and attempt to hold the govt to account over the flaws in the narrative, other than repeatedly posting what are often near hysterical comments on random posts on random weblogs or 7/7 message boards.

There are a huge number of problems and issues surrounding the concept of a fair or independent public enquiry Dave, I agree. When someone comes up with something better, other than random comments on random blogs, we'll back calls for that. Untill then, we will just have to cope with the conspiraloons thinking we at Blairwatch are agents of the state, a Nu Labour disinformation project, a MI6 front organisation etc etc etc

I think the security

I think the security services are wanting desparately to look incompetent rather than wanting the bombers to look comlicit.

>I liked the hat on Mad

>I liked the hat on Mad Tony. Perhaps a new one?

How about a strait-jacket?

(As the preceding three posts illustrate, it is sometimes very difficult to know whether you've posted on this site or not).

Right, quarsan. We get the

Right, quarsan. We get the worst of all worlds: the "security forces" behave like Keystone Cops when faced by a real threat (and, often, imagined ones). But to us, the citizens who pay their wages, they act like the Gestapo. A few unfortunates, such as Jean-Charles de Menezes, get treated to a very special combination of both: the Keystone Cops who misidentified him, failed to notice him leaving due to taking a leak, and did not stop him during his lengthy bus ride; and the Gestapo who burst into his tube coach and shot him dead in a blizzard of bullets that would have gladdened the heart of Al Capone.

What is the point of this

What is the point of this post? you either accept the 'official narrative' or you don't.

If you don't then the government is lying and covering up a serious crime in which it was complicit and you are automatically an enemy of the state.

If you do then you are in denial of some very basic facts and masses of circumstatial evidence and you are then a slave of the state.

Nice to have choices in a democracy eh?

Incidentally, heads up, as

Incidentally, heads up, as they say in Americaland, to the fact that next Thursday night Channel 4 are broadcasting "The Trial of Tony Blair" where he gets carted off to the Hague on war crimes charges in the near future. It stars the magnificent Robert Lindsey. Its written by none other than John Reid's - yup, that John Reid's - stepson. Apparently - from a relative of the director whose seen a preview - it is very good.

(Its going out this Sunday or Monday on digital).

Inquiry? Fat chance. Why? It

Inquiry? Fat chance. Why? It may interest you to know that in 1998 an unmarked security forces car followed the Omagh bombers into the town, but were under instructions not to act to intercept it in case it was a 'dry run' and the 'Peace process' would be derailed. Result: Slaughter of 29 people, severe wounding and disabling of many more. Prosecutions?

The first responsiblity of government is the security of it's citizens. However, this government has proven time and time again that they do not care one iota for the security of British citizens, whilst in pursuit of their madcap programmes in social engineering at home and insane foriegn policy which has actually placed British citizens in harms way. Remember the 45 minute rubbish? Or have we drawn a line under that monstrous lie and 'moved on'?

The 'security' industry is thriving on the back of the Blair and Nulab 'cow and fear' control agenda over the British public. It is an utterly shameful way to run a country. Yet apparently Blair sees no irony in prosecuting a 'war on terror' and placing terrorists in government as he has done in N Ireland.

Any inquiry would be a whitewash (Kelly) or a sop (Bloody Sunday), it wouldn't do to offend.

The army haven't enough armoured vehicles, yet Cruella Blair has an armoured car. The Navy is being decimated but Brown is giving billions to Africa. Yet the mad bastards could yet try and invlove us in an attack on Iran. What else do you need to know about the concerns of NuLab for the security of the UK and it's citizens?

Re Tony Blair Ch4 'trial'

Re Tony Blair Ch4 'trial' .

can someone post that programme on the internet?

Amen Brother. Here's the

Amen Brother.

Here's the deal. In theory, our Government have all the facts at hand, yet their Narrative cannot be correct. So, they are either not fit for purpose (as our friend Mr Reid would say), or they are lying.

If they are lying, they must be covering something up. It's fair to assume that they wouldn't think twice about selling someone down the river as a scape goat, so this lie must be covering up something really big.

That is why the conspiracy theories start coming out of the woodwork.

Sadly even if we did have a

Sadly even if we did have a public inquiry no-one would believe it's findings.
NuLabor has so tainted everything it has come into contact with over the years. That we would be hard pressed to find anyone to chair the inquiry, who would be a creditable chairperson.
Personally, I wonder if I will live long enough to see the whole truth about the poodle and NuLabor coming out.
There certainly does not seem to be any champions on the horizons, like Woodward and Bernstein, to start the herculean task of mucking out the stables.

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I take it you mean the

I take it you mean the communities that supported, justifed, and covered up for the bombers, who are at present assumed to be enjoying the benefits of assorted virgins in paradis?

>can someone post that

>can someone post that programme on the internet?

I'm dead ignorant about such technical matters but I suppose it can be done.

e mail these guys and ask

e mail these guys and ask WHatreallhappened on july 7th

http://www.visorconsultants.com/

info@visorconsultants.com

Like the IRA the honour code

Like the IRA the honour code adhered to for the Omagh bombing in 1998, La Mon restaurant, Shankill chip shop.....etc etc etc...

Where on earth do they get interviwers like that?

re comment deleted@13.15

re comment deleted@13.15 :
Ok, that's another comment deleted - which is what will happen to comments that are little more than cut and paste from prisonplanet.com or whatreallyhappened.com.

[If people want to read PrisonPlanet or WRH, then the links are above.]

This, the anon commenter concludes, is evidence that this site is run by MI5/6 - which I think makes the conspiraloon point...

The whole thing stinks, the

The whole thing stinks, the reason Dame Eliza is going is probably due to the conspiracy theories and not because she was caught napping. They could just release some CCTV footage and the conspiraloons would disappear but they won't/can't.

I have no faith in a public inquiry because I don't believe any real answers would be forthcoming - just more whitewash and lies. Whether it was MI5 or total incompetence I doubt we'll ever know, the whole thing just stinks. What an embarrassment.

WHY DELETE???when the copy

WHY DELETE???when the copy and paste is relevant to the post??my dear fellow.get a grip.we all know 7/7 WAS Londons 911.obvious innit guv!

"Re Tony Blair Ch4 'trial'

"Re Tony Blair Ch4 'trial' .
can someone post that programme on the internet?"

You can rest assured that it will be available on the P2P network of your choice. There are some tasters on the C4 website:

http://www.channel4.com/more4/drama/t/trial_tony/index.html

I like the clip where he is woken up by Brian Haw chanting 'Tony Blair - War Criminal!' outside his house.

Maybe Lord Hutton could

Maybe Lord Hutton could chair it.

http://tenpercent.wordpress.com/

well if you beleive there is

well if you beleive there is a coverup but don´t believe there is a government conspiracy, ie complicity, I´d say youn were a bit confused.

well if you beleive there is

well if you beleive there is a coverup but don´t believe there is a government conspiracy, ie complicity, I´d say you were a bit confused.

Not the Whole Truth but part

Not the Whole Truth but part of it ;

Friday, July 15
Another bloody silly conspiracy theory

We all make assumptions. Four guys were carrying bombs that blew up. They knew each other, they had travelled together that day, twoAsians from Leeds, an Asian friend from Leeds who had moved to Luton and a West Indian guy who had recently arrived in Aylesbury.

The four men joined the Thamesmead train from Luton to London Kings Cross carrying rucksacks. They looked, said a police man who has seen CCTV footage from Kings Cross Main Hall," as though they were going on a walking holiday", smiling joking.

They split up, three to die within some 20 minutes, the fourth an eighteen year old another hour later on a bus where he was sat on the back seat upstairs.

All of them were carrying bombs that killed them.

You know that. Did they ?

read more www.postmanpatel.blogspot.com
and search on the site for "Another bloody silly conspiracy theory"

False flag attack like 11th

False flag attack like 11th September. like the liquid bomb alerts. no truth just lies. I think all if not most of the suspects have since been released. the whole war of terror is a lie! will it be Iran next? china? imho

ANONYMICE, name yourselves

ANONYMICE, name yourselves !

I have a lot of indisputable evidence which 'could' lead towards gov complicity in 7/7, but proves nothing.

Check back on these threads a coupla months and you will see.

Secret Services in Europe have committed crimes, falseflag bombings inside Europe, that is proved already. Happy ? That appeared on BW, no probs .

Bombarding BW is kid's stuff. Makes you happy ?

Maybe politely ask BW to give a permanent link to your best 7/7 conspiracy site ?

And there you can discuss to your heart's content.

I will certainly click to you to examine what you have to say .

well if you beleive there is

well if you beleive there is a coverup but don´t believe there is a government conspiracy, ie complicity, I´d say you were a bit confused.

Not necessarily. There are many possible motivations for a cover-up, of which complicity is only one. There's an old quote about never assuming malignancy when incompetence can have the same results, and I think there's far more evidence of a persitent culture of covering up incompetence in the "security" services than of actual complicity in terrorist acts against UK citizens. Although the latter is not entirely beyond the realms of possibility, it would require more positive evidence than merely the existence of a cover-up.

Think of it this way: if I give an alibi in a criminal investigation which is subsequently shown to be false, that does not prove my guilt on that charge. It may well be that I was up to something entirely unconnected that I don't want the police to know about, or even just that I'm a compulsive liar.

Nov 2002 "Maybe they will

Nov 2002

"Maybe they will try to develop a so-called dirty bomb, or some kind of poison gas; maybe they will try to use boats or trains rather than planes. The bottom line is that we simply cannot be sure."

Our public safety and health infrastructures can be quickly overwhelmed, producing casualties in the thousands or tens of thousands.

Osama bin Laden had access to biological or chemical weapons.

The warning came amid fears that Britain is at immediate risk of more conventional terrorist attacks, such as car bombs, parcel bombs and assassinations.

"The key for most people, however, is just remembering to be alert and vigilant particularly in the run-up to Christmas.

Dec 2006

Defending the high security levels which have been maintained in London, Sir Ian said the threat of terrorism was "far graver" than those faced during World War II, the Cold War or the IRA.

He said although there were no details about a terrorist attack during the Christmas period, the country faced a "level of unparalleled threat".

He added: "I think the threat of another terrorist attempt is ever-present.

"We have no specific intelligence but listeners may remember that there was a terrorist plot in Germany against one of their Christmas markets in 2002, so it's a possibility."

Of course, none of the above has anything to do with justifying an invasion of Iraq, has it!

Dan have a read of this,

Dan have a read of this, 'The War on Shampoo', it'll pretty much answers your question:

http://www.craigmurray.co.uk/archives/2006/12/the_war_on_sham.html

"Sir Ian said the threat of

"Sir Ian said the threat of terrorism was "far graver" than those faced during World War II"

So the blitz was just a leaflet drop and V2s rogue fireworks?

Yeah, but mostly at

Yeah, but mostly at Christmas!

a simple explanation of our

a simple explanation of our position regarding the highly monotonous conspiracy theorists who are boring the arse of us all here:

check this out

you are being deleted because you are being tedious, repetative and monotonous.