Condi Wriggles on Rendition, is the issue overtaking Blair too?
As Condi continues her tour, the call for answers over Extraordinary Rendition and the use of torture has got louder, and suspicions of UK cooperation or connivance are growing stronger.
Condi has deviated from the line that US personel were keeping to US law, rather than international obligations.
From today the public line is that all US personel at home and abroad would abide by their international obligations with reference to the treatment of detainees. Including the CIA [does that include 'contractors'? -ed]
Still no mention of the alleged 'Black Sites', but the launching of an enquiry into the leak that told us about them pretty much confirms the story.
Oh, and continued insistance that Extraordinary Rendition is legal, and vital.
Presumably this latest announcement of the US position has nothing to do with the story ABC News is reporting, detailing what the US considers not to be torture:
They say they are revealing specific details of the techniques, and their impact on confessions, because the public needs to know the direction their agency has chosen. All gave their accounts on the condition that their names and identities not be revealed. Portions of their accounts are corrobrated by public statements of former CIA officers and by reports recently published that cite a classified CIA Inspector General's report.
The CIA sources described a list of six "Enhanced Interrogation Techniques" instituted in mid-March 2002 and used, they said, on a dozen top al Qaeda targets incarcerated in isolation at secret locations on military bases in regions from Asia to Eastern Europe. According to the sources, only a handful of CIA interrogators are trained and authorized to use the techniques:
1. The Attention Grab: The interrogator forcefully grabs the shirt front of the prisoner and shakes him.
2. Attention Slap: An open-handed slap aimed at causing pain and triggering fear.
3. The Belly Slap: A hard open-handed slap to the stomach. The aim is to cause pain, but not internal injury. Doctors consulted advised against using a punch, which could cause lasting internal damage.
4. Long Time Standing: This technique is described as among the most effective. Prisoners are forced to stand, handcuffed and with their feet shackled to an eye bolt in the floor for more than 40 hours. Exhaustion and sleep deprivation are effective in yielding confessions.
5. The Cold Cell: The prisoner is left to stand naked in a cell kept near 50 degrees. Throughout the time in the cell the prisoner is doused with cold water.
6. Water Boarding: The prisoner is bound to an inclined board, feet raised and head slightly below the feet. Cellophane is wrapped over the prisoner's face and water is poured over him. Unavoidably, the gag reflex kicks in and a terrifying fear of drowning leads to almost instant pleas to bring the treatment to a halt.
According to the sources, CIA officers who subjected themselves to the water boarding technique lasted an average of 14 seconds before caving in. They said al Qaeda's toughest prisoner, Khalid Sheik Mohammed, won the admiration of interrogators when he was able to last between two and two-and-a-half minutes before begging to confess.
"The person believes they are being killed, and as such, it really amounts to a mock execution, which is illegal under international law," said John Sifton of Human Rights Watch.
The techniques are controversial among experienced intelligence agency and military interrogators. Many feel that a confession obtained this way is an unreliable tool. Two experienced officers have told ABC that there is little to be gained by these techniques that could not be more effectively gained by a methodical, careful, psychologically based interrogation. According to a classified report prepared by the CIA Inspector General John Helgerwon and issued in 2004, the techniques "appeared to constitute cruel, and degrading treatment under the (Geneva) convention," the New York Times reported on Nov. 9, 2005...
According to the sources, when an interrogator wishes to use a particular technique on a prisoner, the policy at the CIA is that each step of the interrogation process must be signed off at the highest level - by the deputy director for operations for the CIA. A cable must be sent and a reply received each time a progressively harsher technique is used. The described oversight appears tough but critics say it could be tougher. In reality, sources said, there are few known instances when an approval has not been granted. Still, even the toughest critics of the techniques say they are relatively well monitored and limited in use.
It is impossible to recconcile the above with Condi's latest claims. She may have announced a welcome shift of policy, but it in no way accounts for the last 4 years...
We have known for some time that the Whitehouse chose to ignore it's international obligations, because they told us, from this memo that appeared in 2003 and futher leaks arguing that the US was attempting to exempt themselves, because they are 'american and fighting terr'ists goddamit'.
What the above ABC News report does is give us some detail about what exactly the Americans consider reasonable, and it's a long way from what the rest of us consider to be so.
1. For the purposes of this Convention, the term "torture" means any act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person for such purposes as obtaining from him or a third person information or a confession, punishing him for an act he or a third person has committed or is suspected of having committed, or intimidating or coercing him or a third person, or for any reason based on discrimination of any kind, when such pain or suffering is inflicted by or at the instigation of or with the consent or acquiescence of a public official or other person acting in an official capacity. It does not include pain or suffering arising only from, inherent in or incidental to lawful sanctions.
2. This article is without prejudice to any international instrument or national legislation which does or may contain provisions of wider application.
Backed up by this report from the NY Times.
Blair, in answering a series of questions at PMQ today, backed Condi to the hilt, accepting her assurances on Rendition and Torture. He also made a doomed effort at seperating Rendition from Torture.
Doomed, because he failed to explan why the US are kidnapping individuals in one country, tranporting them to another country for a little "local" interrogation, before shipping them via Afghanistan to Guantanamo bay?
The clue is in the countries into who's tender penal systems the 'rendees' are being entrusted: Morocco, Jordan, Egypt, Uzbekistan?.
That Mr Blair, makes it very hard to seperate the issues of Torture and Rendition.
As for the Bliar accepting Condi's assurances that the US don't use or sanction Torture, and adhere to their international obligations? Some questions that might be asked of Mr Blair are:
- What do you think constitutes Torture?
- Do you belive that US methods if incarceration and interrogation are are consistent with International obligations?[see above]
- If detainees are not being moved to secret prisons or other regimes to be tortured... then why are they being moved to these places at all?
Charles Kennedy has written to Mr Blair asking for clarification, but if his letter is as garbled as his appearance on C4 news, as discussed earlier, then I don't hold out much hope the Lib Dems will be the source of the answer.
The Channel 4 news report is worth watching, if not for the sight of the worst most incoherent apprently half pissed political interview I think I have ever seen. C4's reporting of this, compared to their rivals is to be commended.
The more that emerges about this story, the worse it appears. What little credibility the US and UK 'axis' might have once had is long gone,
The only way for anybody to move forwards in rebuilding the damage done by disaster that is The War Against Terror and Iraq is to hold people to account. That doesn't just mean Saddam, insurgents and international terrorists. It includes the leaders responsible for the prosecution of the war in Iraq, and The War Against Terrorism, Messrs Bush and Blair.
Our leader's energies are directed towards protecting their reputations and positions and avoiding being held accountable for their [our] actions under the guise of 'National Interest'. Without accountability on all sides, the situation in Iraq will only get worse and the threat from Terrorism will only increase.
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