Blair on Iraq - "God told me to do it!"
"We don't do God" - was Alistair Campbell's famous quip when Blair was being quizzed about his religious beliefs.
Well, Alistair couldn't have been on hand when tomorrow night's Parkinson Interview was being recorded:
Mr Blair answered "yes" when asked on ITV1 chat show Parkinson if he had sought holy intervention on the issue.
"Of course, you struggle with your own conscience about it... and its one of these situations that, I suppose, very few people ever find themselves in."
The interview, Michael Parkinson's first on his chat show with a serving PM, will be shown on Saturday.
"In the end, there is a judgement that, I think if you have faith about these things, you realise that judgement is made by other people... and if you believe in God, it's made by God as well," Mr Blair said.
"When you're faced with a decision like that, some of those decisions have been very, very difficult, most of all because you know these are people's lives and, in some case, their deaths.
"The only way you can take a decision like that is to do the right thing according to your conscience."
Believe me, having seen the segment on ITV news, the quote in the BBC page linked above is only a snapshot.
There's not much about this on the net... yet!
More later, "Crusade" anybody?
"This is a religious
"This is a religious ideology... Those who kill in its name believe genuinely that in doing it, they do God's work; they go to paradise." - Tony Blair
Not much difference between Blair and his enemies then is there?
Straight to Hell
Straight to Hell Motherfucker
Which God? The one who rewards suicide bombers, or the one who tells Bush which person to torture to death, or the one that talks to serial killers, or the one that has his priests rape altar boys, or the one that blessed the atom bombs dropped on Japan, or the one that let the holocaust happen...
Last refuge of the clinically insane, or is he angling to cop a diminished responsibility plea to avoid the guillotine.
This is what's known as the
This is what's known as the Peter Sutcliffe Defense
God doesn't speak to me,
God doesn't speak to me, which is becoming a disadvantage in this new 21st century world that I keep hearing about. Because God sees fit not to comunicate His will through me directly I would like to ask Tony Blair, "what is God telling you about Iraq now?"
I wonder what Tony and the
I wonder what Tony and the Lord speak about, the weather? Does he tell him directly or can Tony just read it in the tea leaves?
If Tony and George call God at the same time, can they hear each other?
I think we ought to know.
hang on a mo - nobody
hang on a mo - nobody elected blair's god
blair is insane I have no
blair is insane I have no doubt about that.
The UK government MUST know for example Sept 11th was a staged event.The implications of this are that they are as crazy as the assholes in Washington or either they are very very afraid not to play Bushs insane game.
Blair is a pathological liar,this is a recognised illness defined as,,,,
Pathological Liars
There is a reason why you are asked in court to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. It is because most of the time that is not what people do. Everyone lies sometime. There are many reasons to lie. Sometimes it is to not hurt someone's feelings. Sometimes a lie is for our own advantage. Some people lie in conducting business and in their personal lives. Most adults are aware of when they lie.
Young children sometimes have problems telling fantasy from reality. When a 3-year-old insists that he flew to Mars this morning, he may not be lying on purpose. He may not even be aware that it is a lie. Children with good imaginations often take longer to learn what a lie really is. It is important to work with children to teach them about fantasy and reality, instead of punishing them for these kinds of beliefs.
A pathological liar believes in the lies, at least at the time that she or he is talking. Their stories tend to be very dramatic. They often portray the person as being smarter, braver, more attractive, or more interesting than she or he really is. Sometimes people begin to catch onto pathological liars because of obvious flaws in the stories. A fairly young man will describe his heroics in the Vietnam war. A homely woman will talk about all the men who fell instantly in love with her. Sometimes the flaws may be more subtle and it may take a knowledgeable person to find them. Often it happens that a pathological liar will be caught out at a party by someone who really was a pilot, really lived in Africa, or really was a fashion model.
Suspect a pathological liar if:
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the stories seem too dramatic or unrealistic
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the lies seem to serve no purpose except to impress people or
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the lies can easily be shown up
Sometimes pathological lying appears to be related to physical causes, such as problems in the brain. Other times they appear to be related to low self-esteem. In any case, good diagnosis and treatment is needed. Contact your healthcare provider for assistance and referrals if needed.
think wmds folks.
having lived in the UK for
having lived in the UK for less than two years, i take it from the campbell quote that blair's thing with his god was kept private until recently. when exactly did blair begin to talk publicly about his beliefs? w/i the last 3 years or before?
ps, i saw an advert for this last night and almost fell out of my chair at this: 'In the end, there is a judgement that, I think if you have faith about these things, you realise that judgement is made by other people... and if you believe in God, it's made by God as well.'
Tony Blair is saying:
Tony Blair is saying:
1 He believes in God
2 He believes that ultimately his soul will be judged by God.
Unbelievers have every right to disagree with Tony Blair's views, but there is no harm in him having beliefs. He has the courage not to go with the anti faith anti Christian attitudes prevalent in the UK. Do we want a puppet who has to fear being honest and cease to be himself.
Rimone asks "having lived in the UK for less than two years, i take it from the campbell quote that blair's thing with his god was kept private until recently." There is nothing new about this. The Prime Minister and his wife have never made any secret about being regular churchgoers. She is Catholic. He is Church of England. They go to each others' churches and have that throughout their married life. Ian Duncan Smith and Charles Kennedy likewise, and a lot of other politicians. They are not freaks.
Why are people so terrified when they hear God, prayer or churches mentioned? I go to church, and I do other things like walking my dog, going to the pub, eating out. Sorry folks, you are surrounded by Christians. We are very hard to spot, we don't have horns.
Yes, Church-goer. But going
Yes, Church-goer. But going to church doesn't make you a Christian!
What DOES make you a Christian is the extent to which you try to model what you think, say and do your own life on the teachings of Jesus.
OK, noone knows what Blair thinks. But the way he chooses to live his life appears to be about as far removed from the teachings of Jesus as my tiny mind can understand. Not only that, but lets take it back further - the ten commandments. "Thou shalt not kill"...
Hypocrisy of the highest order?
I await your reply.
the problem here isn't so
the problem here isn't so much blair's belief in god, i don't think, as the fact that his beliefs are colouring his politics.
i realise i'm surrounded by christians - my father is a vicar - but i also think it's important to remember that, at least nominally, we live in a secular state. obviously i realise that the queen is also the head of the church but in a truly democratic system that means nothing as she's not elected. i am aware that blair appoints the archbishop of canterbury, but i think that needs to stop too. he should be appointed by clergy.
the problem is that when politics starts mingling too much with religion, things go wrong. having god as a recourse seems to give people this idea that their way is inalienably the right way - but how can this be? fundamentalist jihadists think that to commit terrorist attacks will get god's approval, while bush believes that bombing their country in revenge will. he also seems to think that keeping people without trial or charge is a godly way to behave. the tudors felt that burning people at the stake or beheading them for having different beliefs was right, and how do we regard that now in this "enlightened" 21st century? too many political atrocities are carried out in the name of a god, but i very much doubt that god actually wants that kind of thing (well, i wouldn't if i thought he existed, which i don't).
by all means, let these people believe in god as much as they wish, but the state is a secular entity with good reason and it should be kept that way.